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Downtown Line (DTL) General Discussion
#31
(16 February 2011, 10:18 PM)C151 - 053/054 Wrote:   Show/Hide

if SBST were to get it

then commuters will see C951As by SBST

in the CCL which is operated by SMRT!
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#32
(17 February 2011, 07:16 PM)d143b2 Wrote:   Show/Hide

Unlikely lol
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#33
(17 February 2011, 08:06 PM)C151 - 053/054 Wrote:   Show/Hide

Paperwork and other things will get extremely complicated...
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#34
(17 February 2011, 09:10 PM)nickgoh45 Wrote:   Show/Hide

Well, it might just mean cooperation between the 2 companies
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#35
i hope SBST can win DTL so that they can give back CCK/BBT bus operations to SBS transit!!!!!!!!!!!
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#36
I vote FirstGroup because a private company could operate the Downtown Line independently from SBS or SMRT (but with free transfers still).

P.S. Why wasn't Veolia Transport mentioned in the choices?

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#37
THE tender to operate the 42km MRT Downtown Line is now open – the first designed to prevent public transport companies from slipping into complacency as far as customer service is concerned.

For starters, the Downtown Line contract is for only 15 years, down from the 30 to 40 years given to operators of earlier lines.

The operators of the Downtown Line will also have to lease operating assets such as trains from the Government. Under the old system, rail operators were given the initial set of operating assets, but had to foot the bill for replacement sets.

And unlike some previous tenders which were open to all interested parties, the new tender is open only to incumbent transport operators SMRT Corp and SBS Transit.

Tenders for future lines – such as the Thomson and Eastern Region lines – might be open to players other than the incumbents, including those from abroad. When the lease for the Downtown Line expires in 2032, another tender for an operator may be called.

Changes to the business model were mentioned in August, when Second Transport Minister Lim Hwee Hua told Parliament a higher level of contestability was still possible with just two players.

‘The issue here is really not about the number of potential players in the industry,’ she had said then.

‘Rather, the intent is to increase the level of competitive pressure in the industry by issuing shorter licence periods and ensure that the incumbent operator will have to face the prospect of competition at the end of their licence term.

‘The shorter licence period would also allow the Land Transport Authority, as the regulator, to reset and refresh licence conditions as appropriate.’

Both SBS Transit and SMRT confirmed yesterday that they had been invited to bid for the operation of the Downtown Line.

The multibillion-dollar Downtown Line – which links the Bukit Timah and eastern corridors to the Marina area – will be the third-longest MRT line since rail operations started more than 20 years ago. The North-South and East-West lines are 44km and 49km long respectively. Both are run by SMRT.

The driverless and fully underground Downtown Line will open in three stages from 2013 to 2017.

When fully opened, ridership on the three-carriage system – versus six-carriage for the older lines – is expected to average 500,000 a day. That is one-quarter of total MRT ridership today.

Industry observers expect SBS Transit to clinch the contract as it has the longest experience with driverless lines, having operated the North-East line since 2003.

Analysts are, however, not entirely bullish about whichever company ends up running the new line.

Mr John Rachmat, transport analyst at Royal Bank of Scotland Asia Securities, said that under the revised terms, ‘profitability is unlikely to be as good as before’.

‘No doubt the line will contribute to revenue – the question is how much,’ he said.

He added that there would be ‘compensating factors’, such as how the operator would no longer have to set aside funds for asset replacement, ‘but we need to know all the details when the concession is granted before we can say definitively how it will affect the operator’.

The tender closes at the end of this year and is expected to be awarded by the middle of next year.

Source: Straits Times, 21 Oct 2010
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#38
(16 February 2011, 09:26 PM)dan474 Wrote:   Show/Hide

let's just clarify that when DTL1 opens, trains will run from the temporary maintenance and storage facility in Marina Bay. they only planned to set up a temporary OCC at KCD until Gali Batu readies itself by 2015.

even if KCD will be used, lets remember that a separate track has been built for DTL trains to enter KCD. we are not going to see DTL trains running on CCL tracks under normal circumstances.

where did the information with new operators come from? I am pretty sure only incumbents are included in this round's bidding. its the next one where we will see new players.
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#39
(23 February 2011, 07:34 AM)deskoh91 Wrote:   Show/Hide

Well it will be possible to see The C951 on CCL tracks if SMRT takes over.
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#40
(23 February 2011, 07:06 PM)C151 - 053/054 Wrote:   Show/Hide

you are right the possibility will only exist if SMRT gets the bid haha
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