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ANother Refurbished Train? (Siemens C651)
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Refurbishment of Siemens (SIE) C651

NOTE: Please refer to Page 1 of this thread for more information.

1. Refurbished - On Revenue Service
2. Refurbished - Spotted on Main Line as test trains
3. Suspect Under Refurbishment
4. Not Refurbished

1. Refurbished - On Revenue Service (0/19)

2. Refurbished - Spotted on Main Line as test trains (0/19)

3. Suspect Under Refurbishment (1/19)

217/218

4. Not Refurbished (18/19)

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List in Order (Chronological order)

Total No. of refurbished trains: 0

Last Updated: 280116

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Summary of current known facts on the refurbishment of C651:


Refurbishment Related Tenders:
QX14-028 UPGRADING AND SYSTEM REPLACEMENT OF AIR-CONDITIONING (AC) & AUXILIARY POWER SYSTEM (APS) FOR SIEMENS AND KAWASAKI TRAINS
QZ14-009 DESIGN AND SUPPLY OF GANGWAY PLEATS AND ANTI-JACK KNIFE RENEWING FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QZ14-010 UPGRADING AND SYSTEM REPLACEMENT OF HEAD AND TAIL LIGHTS & LIGHTING SYSTEM FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QZ14-013 FLOOR COVERING REPLACEMENT FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QZ14-014 TRAIN EXTERIOR LIVERY REPLACEMENT FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QZ14-012 SALOON SEATS AND CAB DRIVER SEAT REPLACEMENT FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QZ14-016 SUPPLY AND DELIVERY OF PUBLIC ADDRESS SYSTEM WITH VOICE RECODING SYSTEM FOR SIEMENS TRAINS
QS15-002 TRAIN INTERIOR
QS15-005 DESIGN, MANUFACTURE AND SUPPLY OF ELECTRIC (SALOON) AND PNEUMATIC (CAB) DOOR SYSTEM FOR C651 (SIEMENS) TRAINS UNDER THE MID-LIFE UPGRADING ("MLU") PROJECT


Known Facts: 
Pixel livery on the exterior
Propulsion will be changed to Toshiba IGBT-VVVF (PMSM)
Expected to Start refurbishment in 2016, when the C151B is delivered 
Faiveley to supply Heating Ventilation and airconditioning unit + APU for C651/C151 upgrade/refurbishments
SMRT On Siemens C651 Refurbishment


SRE Incharge of the Refurbishment Project: 

"Local Projects

Siemens Trains Mid-Life Upgrading Project
SMRT Trains Ltd has awarded Singapore Rail Engineering (SRE) a contract for the mid-life upgrading of 19 Siemens C-651 trains. The scope of work includes the replacement of the propulsion system, air-conditioning system and auxiliary power system.
SRE will lead the procurement, system integration, production, testing and commissioning for this project.
The Siemens C-651 trains belong to the second generation of the four different types of train cars used on the SMRT network, operating on the North-South Line and the East-West Line since the mid-1990s."


i am seriously having doubts now on whether Siemens will be refurbishing C651. because base on the summary of Siemens Singapore. it says "Secured a series of train refurbishment contracts from SMRT Corporation Ltd"

but upon probing more details into it it says: In the area of transportation, Siemens secured a series of train refurbishment contracts from SMRT Corporation Ltd. These orders included bogie frame repairs for Singapore's first fleet of trains that has been operating since 1986, and several traction system upgrades for the fleet of Siemens trains that has been operating since 1994.  


and also An order from SMRT Corporation for the supply of bogies for 66 trains was received.


These details are conflicting with the one that says Toshiba will be retrofitting PMSM on the Siemens C651....


The list is there so that the thread can be used in future. Please ignore the list for now.Thread will be moved to happenings forum in due time.

Right now since the refurbishment is long overdue, I guees we can start the discussion.

I m guessing that the train will undergo Resig, Refurb and propulsion changeout together, which is scheduled for 2016. And I m guessing that would mean that refurbishment only starts after 151B enters service.

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今日も JR西日本をご利用くださいましてありがとうございます。この電車は環状線内回り、大阪、西九条、弁天町方面行きです。次は、桜ノ宮に泊まります。お客様にお願い致します、有線座席ではお年寄りや体の不自由なお客様、妊娠中や乳幼児をお連れのお客様がいらっしゃいましたら席をお譲り下さい。ご協力をお願いします。
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Actually i created this document for this purposes:

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*But then u still continue to post it on Train Spotting thread then i will update accordingly.
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#4
Will Refurbished C651 be a bar train or follow normal seating configuration.Hopefully, after refurbishment, STARiS in C651 could perform better and also hope no more bugs.
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(10 February 2015, 04:20 PM)saffie730 Wrote:   Show/Hide

Full seating. No more standees. 
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#6
There's a typo error in the thread's title.

'ANother Refurbished Train?'

Will it undergo propulsion change-out when refurbishing?
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(10 February 2015, 05:27 PM)Mark4211 Wrote:   Show/Hide

if you are talking about the capital N in the word "ANother", it is intentional Smile 
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今日も JR西日本をご利用くださいましてありがとうございます。この電車は環状線内回り、大阪、西九条、弁天町方面行きです。次は、桜ノ宮に泊まります。お客様にお願い致します、有線座席ではお年寄りや体の不自由なお客様、妊娠中や乳幼児をお連れのお客様がいらっしゃいましたら席をお譲り下さい。ご協力をお願いします。
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(10 February 2015, 04:34 PM)leonardtan Wrote:   Show/Hide

Is there a source for this?
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C651 is expected to refurb in 2016... 

14. Trains Upgrade. SMRT has also embarked on progressive upgrades of its ageing first and second generation train fleet. Design studies will be completed this year, followed by the testing of a prototype in 2016 and the systematic upgrading of the train fleet thereafter. To ensure that we have sufficient trains available for service, the refurbishment work is being scheduled with the delivery of new trains. When completed in 2018, these upgrades will address train components such as doors and brakes that have been the primary cause of delays owing to train faults.


http://www.smrt.com.sg/Media/Press-relea...20Releases
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今日も JR西日本をご利用くださいましてありがとうございます。この電車は環状線内回り、大阪、西九条、弁天町方面行きです。次は、桜ノ宮に泊まります。お客様にお願い致します、有線座席ではお年寄りや体の不自由なお客様、妊娠中や乳幼児をお連れのお客様がいらっしゃいましたら席をお譲り下さい。ご協力をお願いします。
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#10
How will you want to see in C651 trains after refurbishment(in terms of design), for me:

1. LCD panel to replace the current STARiS route map
2. New livery on the exterior
3. Coloured handrails(Same as the one which seen in Hong Kong MTR trains)
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